If reach is your primary concern, this is the rod for you. Last, but not least, is the Winston Super 10. Thomas & Thomas not only joins them, but one ups them all with their new "Contact" series of tight-line nymphing rods. The TP tied Sage for the top spot in these categories. Hey Mark, really useful comments. It only takes a bit of adjustment to get accustomed, but once you've sorted that bit out, you'll be glad to own it. Free shipping. The guides are single leg and the penultimate has a shape designed to limit twists in the line when euro nymphing. It’s second only to the Orvis Recon in casting. It won't be a problem with a manual reel though. We are not a blog, or a review site. Bottom Line: I don’t want to pass judgement on this rod yet, since it’s not a 3-weight. But when it comes right down to it, it’s a sign of a rod that was *specifically* designed for tight line nymphing, rather than a standard fly rod that was simply elongated. Contact II Euro Nymph Rods by Thomas & Thomas. The best deals, discounts, and sales on all your fly fishing rods from Orvis, Scott, Winston, Thomas and Thomas and more Rods Thomas & Thomas Winston Scott Orvis Syndicate Cortland Sage Redington Temple Fork Outfitters Echo Discount Bin The data are clear: its manufacturing makes sense for nymphing (first guide at 12.6" from the handle, seat can have a semi-auto reel), its comfort is excellent and its retro look will seduce any amateur of this kind of vintage rod. Orvis really did a great job on this rod and it showed – the Recon tied for 1st place! Typically, when brands with long histories and a loyal customer base change hands, the reaction is considerably negative. These two blanks have an almost identical behaviour in fishing action, only the manufacturing changes: the Maxia is more typical nymphing, while the Contact is more typical dry fly fishing. Sure, it was missing some of the features that would have put this rod over the edge like a fighting butt and a downlocking reel seat. It’s just not a well-designed rod for Euro nymphing. We think BTW is a worthwhile measurement for all rods, but especially for Euro nymphing rods. Those with overrated power (measured power is inferior to the announced power by the manufacturer). Great work. The ESN HD is a complete redesign of the old ESN. Awesome review and test guys! Frankly, I still don’t know much about Marryat, but they make some damn fine rods that have found themselves in the hands of many of the world’s top fishermen. Check the charts if you really want to know. Rods with ERN in the middle of the #3 power have a frequency near : 76cpm for the Airflo Euro Nymph, 77 cpm for the Baetis Precision 2.0, the Echo Shadow X and the Hanak Superb XP, 78 cpm for the Thomas & Thomas Contact and the Maxia SX4. In the modern nymphing technique, the 10’ #3 is the most standard fly rod used for white-water fishing. The Marryat Tactical Pro 10.5 is truly everything that a great Euro-nymph rod should be. The top rods had softer tips and made casting very little weight much easier. The Recon doesn’t disappoint. It is the case for the Airflo Euro Nymph, Baetis Precision 2.0, Echo Shadow X, Hanak Superb XP, Sage ESN HD and the Vision Nymphmaniac. Given the highly specialized nature of these rods, we thought it was worthwhile to include as at least some sense of value to a rod that some of you won’t be using every time you go out. Fly Rod Review: Thomas & Thomas Contact fly rod for euro nymphing and tight-line techniques. The Sage ESN (European Style Nymphing) is built around the company’s latest Konnetic HD technology. The Fuji ceramic stripping guide is followed by 11 hard chrome single leg. Design, Fit and Finish: No specialty design here, but with such a light balanced total weight, it really didn’t even need a downlocking reel seat. Really nice to see someone take on the review of Nymphing Rods, since it has become such a major technique in trout fishing. We then awarded two points for a downlocking reel seat. He trained the brother-in-laws to build them, and by accident, … If there’s one test where it was really going to be able to show us something, it’s this one. You can really feel every bump in the stream. Weight: The NRX weighs in at 3.5 oz with a BTW of 11.2 oz and a swing weight of 109. We quantify the reactivity in cpm. The cork handle has an elegant wooden finishing, matching the insert of the black aluminium reel seat. Advantage to the Maxia when considering fishing comfort. That said, the Sage ESN 10′ 3# is a fish catching tool sent from heaven to ensure that you catch a load of fish, enjoy doing it and dont feel like you’ve spent the day throwing the javelin the morning after. The dull black anodised aluminium down lock reel seat tops a premium Half Wells cork handle (flor grade) typical of the brand. A great article with a lot of information to take into consideration. Thomas & Thomas Orgins. Two fly fishing enthusiasts married two sisters. While the Worldclass is certainly light and long, it managed to be not great at either casting or sensitivity. Trident Fly Fishing is a full service fly shop. Of course, Sage has been making this claim for years with its Konnetic HD technology. While we don't recommend casting dry flies with any Euro-specific rod, this casting score is based on the casting of a Euro-specific leader and running line... which means it doesn't necessarily transfer to castability with a regular fly line. The Syndicate brand has established itself as the most popular manufacturer in the United States when we talk about nymph fishing. I’m not really sure why, but this rod never got much marketing steam behind it. Thanks! Casting and Sensitivity: The DXF did really well in both casting and sensitivity. We have previously seen that this is not necessarily an advantage, except for those who use a manual reel. Bottom Line: The best, and most well-rounded, rod in the test. I got to fish the new Sage ESN 10’ 6” 3 wt and found it to be exceptionally. Because of this massive variation, and the fact that this is a totally calculated category (with little to no opinion), we awarded it the most points in the test. 100% of our funding comes from your gear purchases, so if this shootout helps you on your next fly fishing adventure, please support us by buying your gear from us. Thomas and Thomas Contact. That gave us the ability to really see the differences in sensitivity between each rod. Sensitivity (10 Points) – Sensitivity took the place of “Feel” in our test. Because of its odd length (it’s 10’ 3”) it’s hard to really compare it to another rod, but by any measure, it’s really light. The weight of the rod is written by the joint between the two first sections which makes the set-up easier. It’s heavier than the DXF across the board. OK, at least in this test. ), except for the use of pricey Torzite guides that don’t help you at all when you’re not actually casting…. I know that I don’t want to be carrying or fishing with that much extra weight. Certainly not the worst combination, but nowhere near as good as the Sage. The new Sage ESN 10’ 6” 3 wt is way ahead of these other rods. The best score for length goes to the Echo Shadow X with 189 mm. I've had very good results with it and can without a doubt recommend it. The 11.5’ Tactical Pro weighs in at 3.85 oz with a BTW of 12.3 oz and a swing weight of 158. The balance of this model is impressive and due to the large gap between the reel and the hand that holds the grip (down locking reel seat + very long grip). Other European rods be nice, but my concern would be warranty issues if not serviced in US. A heavy swing weight and balanced total weight keep this rod from being a competitor for the top spot. It has a Sage lifetime warranty. What impressed me the most about the Sage ONE 12’6”#5 trout spey was its length and power to weight ratio. Just my opinion and way I euro nymph. Rather than do a deep dive into exactly how this rod fails, I’m just going to say that there are better options. Tied for first! About the comfort while fishing, our ranking system gives the best mark (8/10) to the Sage ESN HD: the 73 gr and the down-locking reel seat promotes balance allow to take the lead in the ranking! I learned to tight line on a fenwick 3100 aetos and the 3110 world class sounds just about like the aetos- good swing weight with a fighting butt, soft enough to cast fine- no sensitivity. Design, Fit and Finish: Pretty much identical to the Cortland (and several other rods in the test), the DXF is pretty standard. If you can afford one buy it, you won’t be disappointed. Casting and Sensitivity: Like the ESN and the DXF, the Marryat Tactical scored the maximum number of combined points in casting and sensitivity. A new resin named Powerflux 1000 brings to the blank mechanical properties while fishing. Design, Fit and Finish: Great build quality, but we would have liked to see a downlocking reel seat and a fighting butt. Thanks for taking the time to read this! Casting (10 Points) – Let’s face it; while most of the rods we tested are 3-weights, there’s really not a lot that European style nymphing has in common with a 3-weight rod. We started with a base of 5 points, which was given to all of the rods, because, let’s face it, even overseas-made rods are well made these days. I would have liked to see other company’s rods in here, but I imagine it’s difficult to acquire even as many as you did, and I appreciate it. Unfortunately, it’s super stiff and that made it very hard to cast. Casting and Sensitivity: If you want to learn to nymph like the Europeans, the Orvis is the easiest casting rod in the world. Regarding the power, the rod reviewed in this test can be classified in two different categories: The action is characterised by the Action Angle (AA) and two categories are found in the bunch of rods tested. On the cigar cork handle, a green thin ring marks the first 7.9" from the butt and graduation goes on from 3.9" to 3.9" with green wraps up to 19.7". If your after that big sale (closeouts) on fly fishing gear from brands like Sage, Simms, Winston, Abel, Loomis, Lamson, Bauer, Echo, Redington, Rio, SA and more, then you are on the right page. Unlike the old rod, which was just a long rod, the new ESN is definitely designed specifically for tight line nymphing. Overall, it’s a super specialized tool for anglers that really need the extra length. Get the latest regional sports teams, scores, stats, news, standings, rumors, and more from FOX Sports North. Tight Lines! There are good rods, and there are bad rods. You can simply cover more water with a longer rod. Weight: One of the best! For example, it has a heavier swing weight and BTW than the DXF. They are best suited with their real power #2/3. Way cheaper than any of the other rods you should even consider fishing, Reach: at 10’6”, it’s got some length to get your flies to where they need to be. Bottom Line: Another rod that felt like it missed the mark. 406-222-7130 I think you don't know anything about MAXIA FLY FISHING RODS. I still love those rods. Report Save. This 4-piece rod is delivered in a compartmentalised tube and has a lifetime warranty (something rather rare in this price range). Let’s walk through some of the features that make this rod the winner: The ESN HD just does everything really well. But, I’ve also had some serious reservations about their ability to provide any useful information about a rod. The truth is that it’s not a copy at all. It’s the longest rod in the test and while you can always back up a foot, it’s often not an option to wade a little deeper. Looking forward to your review of the other Contact Rods, especially the 10'8" 3wt. This results in an incredibly lightweight rod that will reduce overall fatigue due to high sticking techniques. The Greys GR80, la JMC Pure Equipe, la Maxia SX, la Soldarini Hydropsyche Competition, la Syndicate Pipeline and the Thomas & Thomas Contact are moderate-fast action rods. It did, however, lack feel as we’ve come to expect from softer rods. Think about this: the difference between the total weight of the 14 rods we tested is only about an ounce, which, isn’t much. The rods with an announced power similar to the measured power. This 4-piece rod is delivered in a cordura tube with a compartment for each piece. For example, the epiphany should have a downlocker by next year and will balance very differently. A lot has changed in rod design in 10 years. Weight: The DXF weighs in at 3.25 oz with a BTW of 11.7 oz and a swing weight of 118. I've fished it with euro nymph rigs as well as a dry-dropper setup and it performed extremely well in both scenarios. If your rod does break, just send it back to me (along with $75.00 to cover the Sage warranty fee and I will take care of the rest). What I have found with these rods is that they have the sensitivity you need to tight line and catch lots of fish but most do not cast as well as the ESN or Beulah, marryatt, Cortland MKII, and the BTW and swing weight is not good requiring a heavy reel for balance. I will say that it was somewhat soft when casting dries, but that's mostly because I went to it from a 9' 5wt which is a completely different animal. Design, Fit and Finish: See description of Cortland and DXF. The Superb XP series has an original look: the matt blank is dark olive green, just like the wraps of the Recoil Titanflex memory guides. Design, Fit and Finish: The Recon is a well-designed nymphing rod. Shoot me a message when you all do this again and I'll happily send out a few for the shootout! Cold water flowing over big boulders and into deep pools. Over the years I have fished the Hardy Zenith 10’ 3 wt, Syndicate 10’ 3 wt, Echo, Redington, and the first generation Sage ESN. We’ve been carrying Mystic for several years now and we’ve always been impressed by the Reaper for its top notch performance and value price. Casting and Sensitivity: While the Contact was surprisingly sensitive, it was just a bit too stiff to make it an easy caster. Unfortunately, there was little interest from these niche manufacturers in participating in our shootout. So, let’s see what are the optimum choices according to each kind of technique: Finally, note the perfect similarity of the power / action / reactivity values of the Thomas & Thomas Contact and the Maxia SX4. Casting and Sensitivity: Like the Cortland, the Sky is a decent rod to cast, but lacked feel. Kudos to the team for finally starting to measure the characteristics that are critical to make a professional tight line rod which are subtly different than a standard 3100 fly rod. This next year the brand introduce some new rods for dries. Thomas & Thomas Contact 11' 3'' 3wt. 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