https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/acjbvv/please_help_me_choose_between_a_dead_air_sandman/?st=JS3KV9R0&sh=2025a35b. whatever you can throw at it itll take. I … Cassandra updated 11 months, 4 weeks ago 2 Members ... I’m really torn between the nomad and the Vox S, but I don’t want to have to use wipes all the time for a great experience. My only experience is with the Surefire issued cans. While we didn't think it could get any better than a Sandman-K, S, L or Ti, we were pleasantly surprised when this little silencer wandered into our shop! If you had to shoot it indoors, like a house, which would you prefer to be using? for 5.56 I'm planning to purchase my first suppressor in the next few weeks and I'm still having a tough time deciding on the best option. We find out. I've had my head down working on our new taper mount, and times are just crazy busy in general. I just put an ultra 7 gen 2 in jail last week, but I was in the same dilemma, I looked really hard at the Dominus, and the Nomad Ti as well as the ultra 5 & 7. The QD system is design perfection. You can just get away with a lesser NRR rating.

The Sandman-S is the shorter version suppressor in Dead Air’s notorious Sandman 7.62mm silencer line. First Suppressor - Sandman-S vs ? That means your Nomad-L can have the same robust and proven attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. The Griffin customer family has more room and now's the best time to jump on board! The Dead Air Armament Sandman series of silencers comes in an S and L version. Reviews; Write a Review; At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S ™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. its not full auto rated. Sandman has a Stellite baffle stack in a tube and the Nomad is tubeless 17-4 baffles. These are the cans i'm considering as well. The light weight titanium and stainless silencer is intended to go everywhere you go on whatever host rifle your day requires. But thats just me. AR15.COM 14,150 views. If you are already a fan of the Dead Air muzzle devices, you’ll be happy to know the Nomad-L is KeyMo compatible. I believe he gives some first hand comparisons and advice between the Nomad and Sandman S a few places. I guess I need to turn on notifications or something. You must log in or register to reply here. I could run Key-Mo on my Nomad, but it's just too heavy and bulky, not the best option out there for most uses IMO. Choose your poison!…” Some use on a 556 during pig hunts. You can add the KeyMo adapter and the Nomad will be about the same weight, just larger diameter. Sandman S vs Micro 30. Hansohn summed it up, the nomad is the right choice for 90% of people (lighter, quieter, modular mounting, strong enough). Is the Nomad TI "louder" than the Nomad-L? It may not display this or other websites correctly. But naked Ti is sexy when it gets hot and starts to turn colors. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. But a Nomad E-Brake on a Sandman looks rather… phallic. Watch Mike and Mikeith talk more about the Nomad-30. About AR15.COM. My Ti has never come loose on anything I have attached it to. I found the Sandman to be most comparable to the L, and the Hybrid landed somewhere closer to the Nomad 30. So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. That is Todd Magee, the designer of suppressors at Dead Air. Ive got a sandman l. from my understanding a few of the differences are the materials they used and the dimensions. Reply. I saw the same thing about direct thread coming loose. My other consideration was Thunderbeaat. I don't have any info for you, but just wanted to pop in and say thanks cause I had also searched this and came up pretty empty handed. Im brand new to suppressors and nfa stuff, so i probably wont understand anything more than basic terms. Other than length and weight (they are almost the same, with the nomad being a small bit shorter but wider, and slightly less weight), how does the performance compare? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ultimately, the nomad will be quieter, but the sandman s seems to be a great entry and has a great mix of length, sound suppression, and weight. If the Ti is something you are interested in for a specific purpose, like hunting, then get it. Cant really find anything on google directly comparing these 2, only the nomad and the L or Ti. Using our 13.9″ TRACK 2.0 5.56mm barrel with a pinned and welded Dead Air Flash Hider meeting the 16″ overall length ATF requirement, you will have a suppressor ready rifle right out of the box that will perfectly complement your choice of the Dead Air Sandman-K, Sandman-S, or NOMAD suppressor! https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Dead-Air-Nomad-30-worth-getting-with-Sandman-S-/20-493515/. Lantzjoey291. The Sandman S is QD out of the box, it has a 1.5" diameter, a length of 6.8", and it is build like a tank. Hopefully we can get some insight. I plan to buy 5.56 caps for which ever i choose for my 14.5 P&W rifle, and other rifles later on. .....the nomad cant take the heat that the sandman can.... bud. I like the direct thread and keymod options. and the sandman series is built full auto rated. some people state that the rating is different between the two. And I was under the impression that dead air’s patent ensures that only the dead air muzzle brake is keyed to force it to be mounted the same way every time, so there’s no change of zero. Nomad vs Vox S vs ?? Keep it coming. Yea, they seem like the most comfortable. For the kind of shooting I do the difference in toughness really doesn't matter, mostly hunting/LR bolt gun and slow fire AR, my cans never get up to the ~800 deg level where Ti has problems. If you need the strongest can for whatever reason, the Sandman line is it. Page / 8 Next Page. No wobble, no seizing, no … Nothing really to add at this time. The flash hider front cap optimizes your Sandman or Nomad-30 silencer by reducing the front cap size to your caliber. The QD system is design perfection. The nomad is lighter as noted and I think the tone is better on 308 with the nomad. (See y’all in 6-9....) Thing is absolutely huge, but has the greatest noise suppression based on all the data I could uncover. Without the silencer, a five shot string of the same Federal Gold Medal turned in an average velocity of 2629 fps with a SD of 10.7. That means your Nomad-30 can have the same robust and proven quick attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. On the other hand, I think you could mark the suppressor and brake in such a way that you line it up the same way every time. The Nomad is more than tough enough for the vast majority of shooters, and in fact, I would personally recommend the Nomad series of suppressors to most shooters over the Sandman series. Looks like cell G37 has a typo unless you mean to say that the Dead Air Sandman S is only 28.2dB at the ear. In MAC’s 7.62 video the back to back testing of the Sandman L and Omega showed that the Omega was actually 4dB quieter with a .308 bolt gun which adding it all up winds up being 9~10dB from the Omega to the L to the S (Disclaimer: this is clearly an overstated estimate of the gap between S and Omega). Should still wear hearing protection even with cans, cans are still not exactly hearing safe. If you’re not shooting FA/SBR regularly the Sandman is a bit overkill in my opinion. Lantzjoey291 Replies: 13 Views: 524 1/9/2021 1:23 AM monkeypunch Previous Page. Shop for Low Price Brownells Mpo Ar15 Com And Dead Air Nomad 30 Vs Sandman S Site Www Ar15 Com . The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). I was leaning towards the Nomad. Long and heavy. Am leaning more towards Ti. Buying now I'd go with the Ti as it has the length and performance of the original Nomad with a 30% weight reduction... Definitely a plus for anything you are hanging on your muzzle and toting around, possibly swinging and shooting unsupported. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. I apologize if format is weird, I’m on mobile. This suppressor is 6.8 inches long and 17.7 ounces, providing shooters a compact and maneuverable addition to their host firearm, with impressive performance on 300BLK, 5.56, and 7.62. With the Sandman S screwed to the end, a similar five shot string dropped to 2620 fps on average with a SD of 5.7. Dead Air Sandman-S 7.62mm QD Mount At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, … So the welding might address a potential issue that could arise without it, but I don’t know for sure. I thought they'd be pretty similar and warrant some comparison discussions but I was pretty surprised to find almost nothing. re: Silencerco Omega Vs dead air sandman S Posted by boatless2 on 10/2/17 at 12:59 am to Ice Cream Sammich Well after watching a bunch of YouTube videos, and talking with y’all, the dead air was consistently louder decibel wise than the thunder beast, silencerco omega, … difference in materials. One hand removal in just seconds. As only knowing enough about cans as having one issued and using it for CQB and Recce patrols, I appreciate the detailed info. Because Key-Mo is heavy and long and regular DA muzzle devices are also heavy themselves, leading to a mount/adapter weight penalty of a little over 8 oz. The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). That's right. It also comes off when you want.”. Sorry I missed this. Silencers (Page 1 of 8) AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. I just ordered the Nomad-L w E-brake as my first can. Glad to see the post took on a life it’s own with a little heated debate even. Joined Dec 19, 2016 Messages 1,352 Location Winston Salem. Rating - 100%. Silencer Shop and Mike Pappas Dead Air Nomad and Sandman - SHOT Show 2020 - Duration: 13:21. The Nomad-30 is specifically designed for the everyday shooter. They have been testing the nomad with 3 different versions: a new one, slightly used, and one with several thousand rounds through it. If you search hard enough on youtube you can find videos of people shooting each to get a better idea of what "tone" they are. Thanks for the input and I concur with your statement that while cans help in reducing decibels, ear protection is vital as well. If it wasn't such a hassle I would consider trading my Nomad 30 off for the Ti, but it is what it is. Which can would y’all recommend, maybe even above these two? Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. When I shoot subs out of my Rem CSR with the sandman its movie quiet. We seek to expand general understanding of the laws collectively referred to as the National Firearms Act and their implications for gun owners and citizens of today. I went Nomad-L plus EBrake for better sound suppression and recoil and muzzle rise reduction. I've had my head down working on our new taper mount, and times are just crazy busy in general. Yes, the Nomad Ti is there same length as the Nomad 30, and meters very similarly: Db is not everything in a can, it helps, don't get me wrong. *Accessories such as Key-Mo and E-Brake shown in images are not included. The stellite baffles handle erosion better than any other material out there. The Nomad 30 is a nice size/performance combo for those uses, and I like mine. Silencer Shop tested the Nomad-Ti vs. the Nomad-30 in this video and here are the 300 BLK and 6.5 Creedmoor numbers: ... You can definitely tell the difference in sound vs my Sandman-S but on a 16” carbine the shorter length and lighter weight is absolutely worth the tradeoff. 300BLK Subs, 6.5CM and 300WSM. I intended to get the sandman s until someone suggested the nomad. Thats all i got. Although it is shorter than the Sandman-L, it still provides excellent performance across 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms. 3 0 0. Can anyone really break out the difference between the dead air nomad and sandman for me. I asked a question kind of similar a little while ago on here and it sparked some conversation between the different lines. Right now I'm going back and forth between the Dead Air Sandman-S and the Surefire Socom556-RC2. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Dead Air Sandman-S is widely regarded as a suppressor that can take ruthless punishment while still providing superb decibel reduction on multiple platforms. Anyone have other recommendations. I’ve never handled a nomad but have sandman suppressor and it’s built like a tank. I like the deeper tone of my nomad vs my buddies sandman. I read an article about it, probably something dead air put out. Yes. Live and learn. So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. Other than length and weight (they are almost the same, with the nomad being a small bit shorter but wider, and slightly less weight), how does the performance compare? great thing about these cans is if you are ok with their muzzle devices, one suppressor can work for all your rifles 300wm down to 556. and even if youre not ok with their muzzle devices other companies like son of liberty make compatible hider/brakes. Can Cerakote just about anything. The Nomad series bring plenty versatility. Sandman S with the Nomad version of the E-brake on it. Sandman-S. The Nomad is just a touch shorter as well. At 17.3 oz and 6.8 inches long, it is ideal for shooters who value a suppressor with a smaller profile. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Dead-Air-teasing-new-lightweight-modular-rifle-can-Nomad-30/20-493205/?page=1. Omega vs Sandman S. Thread starter Gear Head; Start date Dec 14, 2017; Gear Head Happy to be here. You are using an out of date browser. Of course, you can still interchange them. As with the Nomad model, the Sandman E-Brake accepts all Dead Air end caps–though in this case, we think that the addition of a flash hider endcap would mostly just serve for aesthetics. The Dead Air Sandman-S is the reduced length version of the Sandman suppressor. The Nomad Ti was sexy but I wanted max suppression. It’s a beast. I would say my sandman has more of a mid range sound to it, with less or a high frequency pop. Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. But is there really a big difference in sound suppression? My main concern with threads is the potential to loosen with heat and recoil. When I bought my first can I thought itd be my last.... well its not looking that way now. If you’re planning on running the suppressor on a truck gun or walking through woods the Sandman S to me is more study and has a smaller profile then the nomad. For example, the 5.56 front cap greatly reduces first round pop, and decreases the muzzle reading by roughly 1 to 3 dB. Uh no...I have personally melted down a nomad in a destruction test... it's full auto rated I can assure you. The Nomad is an ultra-versatile suppressor designed by Dead Air Armament to meet the needs of the everyday user. Hope it helps. 53 Likes, 4 Comments - Bruce (@mrsilencers) on Instagram: “Nomad vs. Sandman-S workbench battle. I have a Sandman S and Ti. They haven't tested the Nomad Ti in any of their videos yet, but they do test the regular Nomad 30 against the ultras, and the Dominus. Both the Nomad and Vox-S seem like great cans, but I can't help but think if EA released a "Vox-M" with a ~2" modular front section on top of the standard Vox-S length they would corner this market completely. 300 Blackout (Supersonic)

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